Most Popular 48V Offgrid Solar Battery: New Version Released! And It’s Actually Impressive..
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0:00 Intro
0:47 New Features
2:38 Side By Side Exterior Comparison
3:40 New Internals! Holy Cow!
5:57 Conclusion
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V2 Budget Server Rack Battery (ad): https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-lifepower4-v2-lithium-battery-48v-100ah-server-rack-battery-ul1973-ul9540a-10-year-warranty/?ref=cPwLcVc0SW-BjN
More Server Rack Batteries: https://www.mobile-solarpower.com/server-rack-lifepo4.html
Vertical Mount 48V Batteries (my favorite!): https://www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-vertical-mount-lifepo4.html
0:00 Intro
0:47 New Features
2:38 Side By Side Exterior Comparison
3:40 New Internals! Holy Cow!
5:57 Conclusion
For less than $1,000 more than what this battery is selling for, you can purchase an easy to assemble, DIY LFP battery kit with triple the capacity (over 15 kWH) with a name brand BMS with Bluetooth, active balancing, and a full suite of com ports and grade A EVE cells. So I agree, I don't understand why people are buying this thing?
they listened, upgraded and impressed you
Great update and video! Do you have a discount code for those looking to purchase a turnkey setup or battery and inverter at signature solar to share? Keep up the great work!
HOWdy DIY-S-P-w-W-P,
Thank YOU for this very INFORMATIVE comparison between the Older / NEWER EG4 LiFePOWER4 batteries …
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I was a bit surprised to hear your appreciation (in comparison to the older model) of the 6,000 cycles to 80% DOD. The older batteries said 7,000 cycles to 80% DOD. I don't know if they just changed their testing regimen, or something. I also don't have any other information to validate if this is a real difference between the two.
That said, I also had no idea that the new batteries were so good in so many other ways; that's amazing to see. I just recently got the older model, probably a month before they released the new. :P But if they really will last as long as originally projected, it's probably fine, haha.
Man do I hear you on the crappy, non-flush screw situation though. That was really disappointing when I was installing them.
$1200 for this battery. Or you can buy 2 48v 50ah lipo4 batteries for $700. Your spending about $500 more for not a lot extra.
I think Sheldon did a great job on explaining this product 😉✌️
Dear Will, is it possible to review the Basen-Green home battery, now it's with the LPF batteries inside.
It's looking a pretty good deal, in Europe.
Great vid! You mention that you like vertical batteries better. Which one would you recommend? I am looking for 48v 200-300 ah. Thx!
Couldn't you just stand this up on its back end? ;)
Chuck Cassady uses these batteries with Victron systems in his bus builds to run mini splits and the internal electrical systems. That's probably better for many reasons in a school bus.
That’s impressive they are staying relevant in a changing market. I think and this is just a theory it’s 2 things. One is it people putting them in a basement or area with stairs they think it’s easier to move and two if you have to warranty them you just pull one smaller battery and ship it off instead of one massive battery.
You are the best
I have multiple solar powered systems. Id like to increase my battery capacity but im not going to till batteries are available that can be charged below freezing temperatures.
Will I would love to see a bit more about the large batteries ✌️👍👏
Have you talked about those 'stackable' batteries? I've heard some manufacturers have batteries that you can stack on each other to expand the capacity of the system.
Great.. bought 2 of the old one in the last couple of months
Hello, I have got an issue, I have a home in South America with an array of grid, I have 3k growatt inverter, 6 panels at 395 watts, and battery bank similar to the EG4, with 80 degrees of sunlight , but The system is producing only 1.3 to 1.5 kw, is that normal for a system with that setup?
We have to rely on server rack options as we live in Hawaii and just shipping them back and forward for service takes 5 month for each. It is nice that they make this large vertical version but in case of a failure (as we just experienced) I can take out one of the six in my rack send it back for repairs (takes 5 month) and still have electricity in the house. Now with the super heavy power pro wall mount as an all in one vertical battery that will never work. I had a hard time with Signature Solar to even get this one battery back to them for repair during warranty because of our location
Thank you Will,,, we live off grid built a 14' x 28' solar rack,,, we are putting it together next year as our budget allows,,, I recommend the EG4 6k inverter and 280ah battery to a good friend of mine off grid too,,, he purchased it and solar panels,,, we both got it up and running,,, thank you again for educating me with confidence to build my own,,, I had estimates 45 to 50k,,,, I'm going to be in my total system 10k with the welded iron rack as well,,, 8 miles off grid northern Arizona,,,, 63 and retired,,,, wow what a savings,,, peace…. 7:33 7:33
I have been watching your videos, and I've been reading the DIY forum. But I never knew the forum was yours.
Great job man.
I about to take out the cummins generator in my trailer and install a 24v battery bank with all the solar, would the aerver rack batteries do ok under dirt road vibration?
Gotta do the Vatrer server rack! 😁
I'd like to add that the folks on the forum tend to be very helpful and not condescending, which I really appreciate.
A battery expert / scientist once said that LFP cells should be upright the first 2-5 cycles so that small bubbles can rise and excape. So you get 8000 cycles instead of 4000-6000 that is the reason why upright batteries have an disadvantage to server rack batteries when used as intended
Thank you
I can't get mine to communicate with the EG4 3000. Have four of them.
Another fantastic video. I wondered what the differences were and why I would pay extra for the upgrades. The video was very helpful. I would like to see a video from a different viewpoint than just solar. The home energy market is evolving to revamp the whole concept of power to a home. My scenario is that I am surrounded by tall, mature trees, and solar energy is nothing but a science project. I contacted Tesla Power and a local solar provider, and they all but laughed at me. However, I need to upgrade my 200 amp breaker panel and back up power that could last days if needed, and I have a noise ordinance, so a loud generator running all day is not an option. I see intelligent panels hitting the market like scan, easy-to-install inverter, and battery systems like EP cube and EG4 that can take a generator that could run for an hour or so. If I want, I can take advantage of the time of use from my power company. To keep costs down as much as I can install it myself, it is better to get the electrical to connect to the main power meter. Can you make a video to show an ideal solution? Do I need a full 18kpv? I am starting to see EP cube does have quirky things wrong. Just something not completely focused on solar power but revamping my residential power to my house. – TY…
Very impressive
I love how different you actually are. Makes me laugh. Love the insta page. Feels like I can get to know you better
If I already have two server rack batteries can I add a vertical battery to the same battery bank?
One nice thing with server rack is if a BMS fails you're not without storage. The others are still operational.
Just like a micro inverter grid tie system.
I doubt anyone is going to swap out their old ones for these, I am happy with the six old ones I have. I use window ACs and over night I still have 70% SOC in the morning. Also I think the old ones have 7000 recharge cycles. I would guess you will get many more cycles just discharging 50% or less. I do enjoy these videos, I copied his setup when installing my EG4 6500EX system.
It takes two wall mounted batteries to give you the same storage as on full rack of server mount batteries. EG4 wall mount batteries are 280ah each so 2 will give you 560 ah. A rack of 6 server mount batteries at 100ah each gives you 600ah. Also the kWh of one full server rack is larger than the kWh of two wall mount batteries. So by the time you consider that you have to have two wall mount batteries to do the same job as one server rack setup the price is about the same.
It would be amazing if someone can make a portable battery system with the 6000XP and this battery. One which is as compact as possible, has wheels and a handle to move around and one that is somewhat covered up so it won't look too awkward pulling this around in public lol. That would compete with Anker solix f3800 (for the 6000w output). Benefit of using the larger 600XP instead of a smaller inverter would be that later we can use the 6000XP system for home system (or part of a home system hooked to another 6000XP). So in the rare event you need portable power, just unhook the one portable 6000XP (with this battery) and let the home run on grid until you hook the portable 600XP back on? Is that even possible with some sort of quick disconnect cables? I am new to all this but very fascinated. Not a home owner yet so a portable version with 6000XP inverter would almost set me up to do a home system if and when I own a home and use solar. Until then it would come in handy for emergency power when we lose power. Danm this comment turned out much longer than I anticipated haha.
Thank you Will 👍
High voltage is better
Great review! Thanks for sharing.
I think the reason the rack one is popular is for density in a small space. I'm planning my own solar deployment, and I'm intending to use a 10 x 16 building that I converted into my office as a power house/datacenter. I only have so much wall space, and I could probably only fit four of the wall mount batteries comfortably. Comparatively, I could do probably 3 x racks of these server mount batteries, (IE 18 of them). I do run servers as well in this office, so I'm really planning to have an IT server rack, and then 3 battery racks. Wall mount the inverters, and connect them to the racks. Definitely agree that the wall mount ones are more aesthetically pleasing.
I was going to buy one to build a cabinet system for my trailer. 5kwh is all i want and i can get that with a single battery and it lays down so i can put it in the bottom of a rolling cabinet to make it stable and a standing battery wouldnt fit inside such a small cabinet.
The battery terminals are huge compared to the original models. I will probably add 6 more of the new ones to complete my battery bank.
Edit: My battery bank of the originals have the fire arrestors as well.
I considered the server rack battery mainly b/c of lower entry point costs.
However, I went with the vertical battery. It is more cost effective and less to manage.
Hey will, what’s your thought on using Chins batteries and making a large battery bank out of them. Like a 4s 4p configuration. The 280ah chins 3580wh, i have seen for as low as $414 on Amazon.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. These product updates are great and appreciated.